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		<title>By: Deirdre Reid</title>
		<link>http://www.socialfish.org/2009/09/a-conundrum-for-you.html#comment-1008</link>
		<dc:creator>Deirdre Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 16:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren, I blogged a bit about my experience and arguments here - http://bit.ly/152RPF - and about starting the process here - http://bit.ly/10YFtl. 

Also, here&#039;s the doc I sent to the CEO, etc. - http://bit.ly/M2bCE - and here is one I did for them about open vs. closed groups - http://bit.ly/A7fKU. I hope this helps you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren, I blogged a bit about my experience and arguments here &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/152RPF" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/152RPF</a> &#8211; and about starting the process here &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/10YFtl" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/10YFtl</a>. </p>
<p>Also, here&#8217;s the doc I sent to the CEO, etc. &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/M2bCE" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/M2bCE</a> &#8211; and here is one I did for them about open vs. closed groups &#8211; <a href="http://bit.ly/A7fKU" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/A7fKU</a>. I hope this helps you!</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McGary</title>
		<link>http://www.socialfish.org/2009/09/a-conundrum-for-you.html#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator>Maggie McGary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren--no need to apologize--you have no idea how many people have the exact questions you do so you&#039;re saving them the trouble of asking and giving them a place to come for answers!

I did something similar to the &quot;sales sheet&quot; as a handout for a session I did last year at Great Ideas--I need to find it and update it then I can post it to the wiki. There are lots of compelling stats/references these days--it&#039;s definitely getting easier to make the case for why an association at the very least needs to be listening, if not &quot;doing.&quot;

I search for relevant key words to the professions my association represents, as well as variants (e.g. speech therapy, speech therapist, etc). I will tell you ahead of time that the killer is having to search for an acronym--an unfortunate reality for associations. I work for ASHA and I&#039;m telling you, I&#039;ve come to learn there are a LOT of people in the world named Asha, as well as songs (Brimful of Asha) and famous people!!! I search in Twitter, as well as blogs, social networks and videos. Maybe try it and see what you come up with just as a starting point?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren&#8211;no need to apologize&#8211;you have no idea how many people have the exact questions you do so you&#8217;re saving them the trouble of asking and giving them a place to come for answers!</p>
<p>I did something similar to the &#8220;sales sheet&#8221; as a handout for a session I did last year at Great Ideas&#8211;I need to find it and update it then I can post it to the wiki. There are lots of compelling stats/references these days&#8211;it&#8217;s definitely getting easier to make the case for why an association at the very least needs to be listening, if not &#8220;doing.&#8221;</p>
<p>I search for relevant key words to the professions my association represents, as well as variants (e.g. speech therapy, speech therapist, etc). I will tell you ahead of time that the killer is having to search for an acronym&#8211;an unfortunate reality for associations. I work for ASHA and I&#8217;m telling you, I&#8217;ve come to learn there are a LOT of people in the world named Asha, as well as songs (Brimful of Asha) and famous people!!! I search in Twitter, as well as blogs, social networks and videos. Maybe try it and see what you come up with just as a starting point?</p>
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		<title>By: maddiegrant</title>
		<link>http://www.socialfish.org/2009/09/a-conundrum-for-you.html#comment-5392</link>
		<dc:creator>maddiegrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 15:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lauren Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 14:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deirdre posted a fantastic idea...I wonder if  she would be willing to share her sample &quot;sales sheet&quot;...maybe I can find something similar on the Association Social Media Wiki.  The overwhelming advice is that &quot;listening&quot; seems to be the way to start and so I&#039;d like to dig into it a little more.  It seems a bit of a daunting task in the association world.  Do you search for ALL of your members (individuals OR organizations?) on the various big-ticket social media sites?  Barring a full-blown survey of members&#039; social media activities, do you have any tricks for locating the leaders in this crowd (they don&#039;t seem to be tooting their own horns)?  I realize it might be hard to generalize these things given the idiosyncracies of each organization.

I want to extend a big thank you to Maddie and Maggie for responding directly to my comment on an earlier post.  I know these questions have been asked and answered numerous times and don&#039;t want to abuse this space by only asking newbie questions.  I hope to be able to contribute something more in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deirdre posted a fantastic idea&#8230;I wonder if  she would be willing to share her sample &#8220;sales sheet&#8221;&#8230;maybe I can find something similar on the Association Social Media Wiki.  The overwhelming advice is that &#8220;listening&#8221; seems to be the way to start and so I&#8217;d like to dig into it a little more.  It seems a bit of a daunting task in the association world.  Do you search for ALL of your members (individuals OR organizations?) on the various big-ticket social media sites?  Barring a full-blown survey of members&#8217; social media activities, do you have any tricks for locating the leaders in this crowd (they don&#8217;t seem to be tooting their own horns)?  I realize it might be hard to generalize these things given the idiosyncracies of each organization.</p>
<p>I want to extend a big thank you to Maddie and Maggie for responding directly to my comment on an earlier post.  I know these questions have been asked and answered numerous times and don&#8217;t want to abuse this space by only asking newbie questions.  I hope to be able to contribute something more in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Deirdre Reid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deirdre Reid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At my former association it took a long time for me to convince our staff leadership that we should create a LinkedIn group. I sent the CEO and two VPs a &quot;sales sheet&quot; listing all the benefits that a group would bring to the association and to our members. I also showed the CEO the LinkedIn profile of one of his peers and the group that his association formed -- the CEO was not a LinkedIn user so the whole concept was foreign to him. I ended with the &quot;fear factor&quot; -- what might happen if someone else created a group, how we would lose. 

In the end, they couldn&#039;t deny that it was a good idea and I was given the go-ahead to create the group. However, their biggest issue ended up being the time it would require to maintain and nurture the group, so be prepared to address that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At my former association it took a long time for me to convince our staff leadership that we should create a LinkedIn group. I sent the CEO and two VPs a &#8220;sales sheet&#8221; listing all the benefits that a group would bring to the association and to our members. I also showed the CEO the LinkedIn profile of one of his peers and the group that his association formed &#8212; the CEO was not a LinkedIn user so the whole concept was foreign to him. I ended with the &#8220;fear factor&#8221; &#8212; what might happen if someone else created a group, how we would lose. </p>
<p>In the end, they couldn&#8217;t deny that it was a good idea and I was given the go-ahead to create the group. However, their biggest issue ended up being the time it would require to maintain and nurture the group, so be prepared to address that.</p>
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		<title>By: maggielmcg</title>
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		<dc:creator>maggielmcg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 17:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oooh- @maddiegrant is blogging about me--I feel so fancy! ;) A conundrum for you — SocialFish http://bit.ly/hKIIw&lt;p class=&quot;ubervu_reaction_link&quot;&gt;via &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ubervu.com/conversations/www.socialfish.org%2F2009%2F09%2Fa-conundrum-for-you.html&quot;&gt;uberVU&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh- @maddiegrant is blogging about me&#8211;I feel so fancy! <img src='http://www.socialfish.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  A conundrum for you — SocialFish <a href="http://bit.ly/hKIIw" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/hKIIw</a>
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		<title>By: maddiegrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>maddiegrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 13:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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