There’s a lot of talk in the blogosphere right now about hiring social media managers – what the roles and responsibilities should be and how much current community managers and socmed managers are being paid. We have to tell ya, what we’re seeing is not encouraging.
Hiring for Social Media: The Ugly Side (Amber Naslund)
Hiring For Social Media: Good Moves (Amber Naslund)
Amber’s two posts frame this issue quite nicely, I think. A social media manager role is really important for many reasons and she does a good job of illustrating why that is by looking at good and bad job descriptions.
Forum One also recently published their Online Community and Social Media Compensation Survey 2009. This does not apply to associations and nonprofits only, but regardless, the results are underwhelming to say the least. Here are three posts explaining why. The titles speak for themselves, but do click through to get the scoop.
So, What Do Community Managers Make? (Tom Humbarger)
Social Media Salary Report: Ladies, It’s Not Pretty (Maggie McGary)
Is There a Disconnect Between Social Media Job Descriptions and Compensation? (Tom Humbarger)
Needless to say, this whole sorry situation is just underlined by the fact that by the time my Associations Now interview on 3 new community managers was printed, 2 out of the 3 had moved on to greener pastures. Lynn Morton talked about this issue in her post Community Managers Fly the Coup! I can tell you more about the specifics regarding my two interviewees, and in fact Maggie McGary and I will be doing a session at ASAE’s Great Ideas conference in March about this topic, but the bottom line is that it appears from all of this that social media positions are not being taken seriously and not being integrated properly to the structure of the organization as a whole.
I know several social media managers who are actually quite happy in their roles – and every single one of them is supported by the organization they work for. We also work with some great associations who are taking all the baby steps – and leaps of faith – they need to work through to build their organizational capacity to do this work. They all know consultants like us can help them define and prioritize their issues, but we can’t do the work for them.
So what’s going on here? Are some organizations just not ready to do what it takes? What’s really behind the disconnect?
Amber’s take:
“Based on all the reading I did and evaluation of some of these job descriptions, there is one key thing that jumped out at me, over and over: Companies still don’t know why they need or want social media.
This is partially due to the nascence of the industry, partly due to the need for more and better education on tool-agnostic social media strategy (h/t Jay Baehr), and partly due to our pervasive human desire for the latest and greatest shortcut to awesomeness. Companies are in a big, fat hurry to put social media in the mix, but they’re looking at it tactically, not strategically. Throw a person at it, and check it off the list.”
Thoughts?
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I think NPOs have to make the transition from just donor management and cultivation to full on engagement and long-term relationship management — and not just for the high dollar donors. Until that shift is complete (I think it has started — certainly is our strategy here), I think understanding where social media “fits in” to the mission, objectives, and tactics (e.g., staffing plans and work roles) is not easy.
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Good point, David. I see a chicken/egg situation. In my mind, organizations need to go through an iterative process to shift their mindset and their processes in tandem. It seems like those orgs that are skipping the mindshift and just hiring someone to “make the internet go away” (homage to Wendy Harman) are ending up going back to the drawing board.
By the way, we’ve noticed the good things going on over at diabetes.org. Kudos!
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I think you and I were having a psychic connection yesterday because I wrote a very similar post last night!
I could talk about this for hours but will spare you and your readers; suffice it to say that I think this craziness is happening because people honestly feel very conflicted about social media on a personal level and that discomfort ripples through organizations and causes problems like we all wrote about in the posts you cite here. If you read the Associations Now article you can see a very clear difference between my responses and Todd Carpenter’s. Almost all my answers are about fear and negativity and how I had to counteract it. Almost all of Todd’s answers are about how everyone, from the CEO on down, embraced social media and was eager to learn more about the tools and further the association’s use of them. Is it any surprise that one of us left our job?
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As the social media champion in the association I work for, I’ve certainly had my “dreaming of greener pastures” moments. What has kept me on board through the negativity, fear, and politics is that I believe in the cause and am loyal to the association. If it weren’t for that, I would have been long gone. I didn’t come on as a social media consultant. My role evolved out of another position.
Great post Maddie. I’ve been thinking about offering thi service to nonprofits but I know that without support it can’t possibly work. When small nonprofits ask me social media often they are not very tech savy people and have an image of a techie intern as the answer. The whole idea of building relationships with a younger generation often seems like “a nice idea” but not something they grasp what is needed to make it happen.
Many have not been sucessful with their web 1.0 -website and maybe email- and are therefore reluctant to make the next step to web 2.0 tools. They are right often – if they approach web 2.0 the way they approached web 1.0 it isn’t worth the time.
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Hi Maddie. I’m an account coordinator for a social media marketing agency and I’ve been vigorously searching for a social media role in NPOs. What I’ve come across is that almost all vacancies are at the opposite ends of the spectrum. They’re either looking for someone with managerial to executive experience or volunteer intern. In that respect, I agree with Marion when she says that NPOs see the answer in a techie intern. I’ve yet to come across a position that’s fitting for me, somewhere in between. Do you know of any NPO’s in NYC that are looking for a social media coordinator?
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