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		<title>By: associationjam.org</title>
		<link>http://www.socialfish.org/2009/11/on-tweckling-during-conferences.html/comment-page-1#comment-1356</link>
		<dc:creator>associationjam.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;On Tweckling during conferences &#8212; SocialFish...&lt;/strong&gt;

It&#039;s not about Twitter etiquette: &quot;The real question, for me, is this: if a portion of the audience does not like a speaker, who do you trust? The conference organizers, or the Twitterers?&quot;...</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s not about Twitter etiquette: &#8220;The real question, for me, is this: if a portion of the audience does not like a speaker, who do you trust? The conference organizers, or the Twitterers?&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Acronym</title>
		<link>http://www.socialfish.org/2009/11/on-tweckling-during-conferences.html/comment-page-1#comment-1333</link>
		<dc:creator>Acronym</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Can this relationship be saved?...&lt;/strong&gt;

I was working on a post on social media and association governance for this afternoon, but then I saw a link that David Gammel kindly shared on Twitter and I decided to switch gears. If you haven&#039;t seen it yet,......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Can this relationship be saved?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I was working on a post on social media and association governance for this afternoon, but then I saw a link that David Gammel kindly shared on Twitter and I decided to switch gears. If you haven&#8217;t seen it yet,&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie McGary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie McGary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Peggy--I love that you did that! 

Something I found really depressing was this post about this same issue:
http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.html

First of all, I feel horrible for the speaker and second of all, I hope associations never get to the point where men are openly making crass remarks about female speakers while they&#039;re presenting. I kind of can&#039;t see it, thankfully, but reading that blog post just makes me wince. I think there&#039;s quite a difference between tweeting disappointment that a speaker isn&#039;t equipped to adequately address what he/she is speaking about and openly objectifying a female speaker. 

All I know is I have enough trouble just concentration on what I&#039;m doing--if I have to divide my attention between presenting and following what people are saying on Twitter at the same time, I feel sorry for that audience!! I think the idea of having someone monitor Twitter for questions during a presentation is great, but posting the stream so it competes for both the speaker&#039;s and audience&#039;s attention? Not so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Peggy&#8211;I love that you did that! </p>
<p>Something I found really depressing was this post about this same issue:<br />
<a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2009/11/24/spectacle_at_we.html</a></p>
<p>First of all, I feel horrible for the speaker and second of all, I hope associations never get to the point where men are openly making crass remarks about female speakers while they&#8217;re presenting. I kind of can&#8217;t see it, thankfully, but reading that blog post just makes me wince. I think there&#8217;s quite a difference between tweeting disappointment that a speaker isn&#8217;t equipped to adequately address what he/she is speaking about and openly objectifying a female speaker. </p>
<p>All I know is I have enough trouble just concentration on what I&#8217;m doing&#8211;if I have to divide my attention between presenting and following what people are saying on Twitter at the same time, I feel sorry for that audience!! I think the idea of having someone monitor Twitter for questions during a presentation is great, but posting the stream so it competes for both the speaker&#8217;s and audience&#8217;s attention? Not so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Julius Solaris</title>
		<link>http://www.socialfish.org/2009/11/on-tweckling-during-conferences.html/comment-page-1#comment-1329</link>
		<dc:creator>Julius Solaris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with all points made.

Filtering is not nice I guess, specially because lots of people are checking the livestream on twitter. On the other hand, I have not read a single negative tweet about Tedx for example. 

I also agree on the fact you can&#039;t please anyone, and I speak for free wherever I am invited. Though reality is that the quality of people talking about social media is dropping steadily and tweckling is in most instances just a result of that.

I am also questioning myself on the real value of livetweeting since as I am getting bored of endless streams of tweeting from events.

Maybe twitter lists will be of use in this perspective. For sure Google Wave is a great solution to that. Since they released more invites, we&#039;ll experience more adoption and case studies.

I guess we still have to figure out a way to do it properly.

Great post

Julius</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with all points made.</p>
<p>Filtering is not nice I guess, specially because lots of people are checking the livestream on twitter. On the other hand, I have not read a single negative tweet about Tedx for example. </p>
<p>I also agree on the fact you can&#8217;t please anyone, and I speak for free wherever I am invited. Though reality is that the quality of people talking about social media is dropping steadily and tweckling is in most instances just a result of that.</p>
<p>I am also questioning myself on the real value of livetweeting since as I am getting bored of endless streams of tweeting from events.</p>
<p>Maybe twitter lists will be of use in this perspective. For sure Google Wave is a great solution to that. Since they released more invites, we&#8217;ll experience more adoption and case studies.</p>
<p>I guess we still have to figure out a way to do it properly.</p>
<p>Great post</p>
<p>Julius</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by unhatched</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by unhatched</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 14:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Jamie Notter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Notter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 12:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Underlying all this, in my opinion, is something deeper about our fear of not being liked. A lot of the discussion is around the &quot;problem&quot; of people expressing displeasure. Why is that a problem? Are we all really that thin-skinned? When people express displeasure, I view that as an opportunity for learning. Sometimes it isn&#039;t, of course. Sometimes people don&#039;t like what I have to say or how I say it and neither of us are going to learn much by deepening our dialogue about that. But in most cases, there is stuff to learn (as Peggy&#039;s example showed). Stuff for the speaker to learn, the audience to learn, and the organizers to learn. The more we focus on learning, the less these things will be &quot;problems.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Underlying all this, in my opinion, is something deeper about our fear of not being liked. A lot of the discussion is around the &#8220;problem&#8221; of people expressing displeasure. Why is that a problem? Are we all really that thin-skinned? When people express displeasure, I view that as an opportunity for learning. Sometimes it isn&#8217;t, of course. Sometimes people don&#8217;t like what I have to say or how I say it and neither of us are going to learn much by deepening our dialogue about that. But in most cases, there is stuff to learn (as Peggy&#8217;s example showed). Stuff for the speaker to learn, the audience to learn, and the organizers to learn. The more we focus on learning, the less these things will be &#8220;problems.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peggy Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 02:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for a very thoughtful post ... I was in the room that you are describing and in fact was a tweeter but also a questioner. My tweets stemmed from a concern that the speaker wasn&#039;t able to fully address the topic. I should also mention that I was one of the no-paid speakers. I would hope for courtesy and understanding and a twitter feed that would help me adjust during the presentation. But in any case, the twitter feed helps the program planners in immense ways - just as evaluations do.

I have to share that I was recently doing a presentation during which several people were most disruptive and they weren&#039;t on twitter. I stopped the presentation, said you can see the rest of my slides on Slideshare - let&#039;s talk about about what&#039;s important to you and what you feel I&#039;m not getting to. My evaluations by the way were very good (much to my surprise, although there were a few disparaging remarks) because, I believe, I responded. So, I think a back-channel that is being monitored can be useful. I also believe that as attendees we have a right and responsibility in seeing that we have an good educational experience. Audience participation is critical and the back-channel is another way of participating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for a very thoughtful post &#8230; I was in the room that you are describing and in fact was a tweeter but also a questioner. My tweets stemmed from a concern that the speaker wasn&#8217;t able to fully address the topic. I should also mention that I was one of the no-paid speakers. I would hope for courtesy and understanding and a twitter feed that would help me adjust during the presentation. But in any case, the twitter feed helps the program planners in immense ways &#8211; just as evaluations do.</p>
<p>I have to share that I was recently doing a presentation during which several people were most disruptive and they weren&#8217;t on twitter. I stopped the presentation, said you can see the rest of my slides on Slideshare &#8211; let&#8217;s talk about about what&#8217;s important to you and what you feel I&#8217;m not getting to. My evaluations by the way were very good (much to my surprise, although there were a few disparaging remarks) because, I believe, I responded. So, I think a back-channel that is being monitored can be useful. I also believe that as attendees we have a right and responsibility in seeing that we have an good educational experience. Audience participation is critical and the back-channel is another way of participating.</p>
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		<title>By: uberVU - social comments</title>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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This post was mentioned on Twitter by maddiegrant: On Tweckling during conferences http://ff.im/-bW7Nt...</description>
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		<title>By: Dave Coriale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Coriale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea of appointing someone to monitor the Twitter stream during a session. Thanks for that idea.   Perhaps one twist (and I know it’s not a new one) is to use a portion of screen real estate to display the stream in real time.  Yes, distracting, but could be very useful not only in terms of feedback, but also in terms of keeping mature people mature.  With Twitter being much more mainstream than a few years ago, this would be more like having someone stand and make their comment since Twitter users are no longer very anonymous.

With respect to being a great speaker at a conference – I think it is impossible to please everyone.   And audience members need to realize that and respect that someone has volunteered their time to share their expertise or facilitate a conversation.  It’s not just a function of the speaker of course.  The conference staff should be making efforts to ensure speakers are covering what was published/advertised and the quality of their presentation is up to par.  To often I’ve spoken at a conference and been left wondering if anyone from the host organization was in the room before, during, or after my session.  With the number of volunteers most organizations have at their disposal, it seems like there should be some coverage of sessions.  Also, I usually chuckle when I see my reviews and there are a few that are extremely negative while the huge majority are extremely positive (I never get that).  I agree that the speaker registration discount isn’t an incentive to speak.  I suspect we both speak because we are part of this community and are active participants by nature - as well as the obvious (potential) business benefits.  

Bottom line is you have to be good and you should be good.  Attendees need to consider the fact that everyone in the room might be at a different level for a lot of ‘general’ sessions.  Comes with the territory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea of appointing someone to monitor the Twitter stream during a session. Thanks for that idea.   Perhaps one twist (and I know it’s not a new one) is to use a portion of screen real estate to display the stream in real time.  Yes, distracting, but could be very useful not only in terms of feedback, but also in terms of keeping mature people mature.  With Twitter being much more mainstream than a few years ago, this would be more like having someone stand and make their comment since Twitter users are no longer very anonymous.</p>
<p>With respect to being a great speaker at a conference – I think it is impossible to please everyone.   And audience members need to realize that and respect that someone has volunteered their time to share their expertise or facilitate a conversation.  It’s not just a function of the speaker of course.  The conference staff should be making efforts to ensure speakers are covering what was published/advertised and the quality of their presentation is up to par.  To often I’ve spoken at a conference and been left wondering if anyone from the host organization was in the room before, during, or after my session.  With the number of volunteers most organizations have at their disposal, it seems like there should be some coverage of sessions.  Also, I usually chuckle when I see my reviews and there are a few that are extremely negative while the huge majority are extremely positive (I never get that).  I agree that the speaker registration discount isn’t an incentive to speak.  I suspect we both speak because we are part of this community and are active participants by nature &#8211; as well as the obvious (potential) business benefits.  </p>
<p>Bottom line is you have to be good and you should be good.  Attendees need to consider the fact that everyone in the room might be at a different level for a lot of ‘general’ sessions.  Comes with the territory.</p>
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